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From: Jay Miller (jnmiller, cryptofreak dot org)
Date: 2001.09.26 - 22.42 MDT


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- Words by Perry and Lorae Merritt <plmerritt, hypermall dot net> [010926 17:53]:
> Alright, so I used the mail list. Who did I send it to? Am I allowed to know
> that? ;-)

Don't start with me.

> You're right, the autorestore thing isn't real popular, at least with me.
> There's got to be a better way. What if we sent the ADML a message through
> the portal with some identification stuff, like the pid or ... then the open
> request could compare who's doing the open with the portal or ADC, or backup
> job, or whatever and treat it differently.

Something like this could work, but might open us up to security
concerns.. Hmm..

- Other user space apps might be able to forge identifiers (especially
  if it's something simple like uid or whatever..)
- Our user space app would have to run as root to get past VFS
  permissions checking - never a great idea.

Also, keep in mind that we do migrate the file under the VFS's nose to
some extent, what with setting the file size to zero, and all.  Putting
it back shouldn't be too bad.

What's the down side?  We're still letting the file system do it's job,
and all the benefits of the VFS are still going to be useful when the
open unblocks..?

> Here's an idea, can we make the ADC like a stack, where we can stack pieces
> together to perform any number of tasks?

Yeah, I thought about this today a little bit, too - in case you want
virus checking *and* encryption, say.  I think it's a worthwhile idea,
since I dunno how these modules would 'plug in' anyway.  It does seem
like these 'preparation plugins' are not exactly used like a chain,
though, with other ADCs.  The backup ADC we talked about, for instance,
is just going to need to reference these things *during* its duration,
not before or after.

Maybe just the plugins could be chained like this..?

It does sound good, albeit a bit much like the Windows NT model.
<shudder>

> I went out to the web page. Any way we can each get a name/password set up?

Sure, I guess, Mr. Make-More-Work-For-Jay.  Whaddya think, I have no JOB
or something?!

> You know, I own anterastorage.com would you like to set it up on your server
> Jay?

Oh yeah - I saw that today, too, and was going to mention it.  I'd be
happy to host anterastorage.com on my DNS servers, if you like.  We can
point it to my page for now, and maybe develop a more dedicated one
later.  Or perhaps keep mine for internal development (as it is) and use
anterastorage.com for a public page.. once we're actually a business..
heh.

> Jay, I also have all of the docs on my computer. Is there a way I can check
> them into your cvs repository?

Yes, I'll setup write access to the repository next time I have a
moment to think about security.

> Is Dan on this mailing list? Does he know about tomorrows meeting? Are we
> meeting tomorrow? Does Kevin know?

Dan's on the list, and so is Kevin.. at least, they should be.  And I'll
be at the meeting.

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