cryptofreak.org cryptofreak home projects
contact about
Contact:


projects
News Agenda
Antera Antera
News Commentator
News fcreate
Linux Porting Linux Porting
mod-chal mod-chal
Quake III Quake III
News Zope
Contact: webmaster

From: Perry and Lorae Merritt (plmerritt, hypermall dot net)
Date: 2001.09.26 - 22.08 MDT


X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200

I'll be there at 11:30.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian Kreider" <brian, thekreiders dot com>
To: <antera, cryptofreak dot org>
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2001 10:05 PM
Subject: RE: Meeting thoughts and some other stuff.


> I'm on the list Perry.  Are we meeting tomorrow?
>
> Brian
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-antera, cryptofreak dot org
> [mailto:owner-antera, cryptofreak dot org]On Behalf Of Perry and Lorae
> Merritt
> Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2001 6:56 PM
> To: antera, cryptofreak dot org
> Subject: Re: Meeting thoughts and some other stuff.
>
>
> Alright, so I used the mail list. Who did I send it to? Am I allowed to
know
> that? ;-)
>
> You're right, the autorestore thing isn't real popular, at least with me.
> There's got to be a better way. What if we sent the ADML a message through
> the portal with some identification stuff, like the pid or ... then the
open
> request could compare who's doing the open with the portal or ADC, or
backup
> job, or whatever and treat it differently.
>
> The virus check/backup preparation ADC just confirms what we already
> believed, the architecture is pretty cool.
>
> Here's an idea, can we make the ADC like a stack, where we can stack
pieces
> together to perform any number of tasks?
>
> I'm available to meet Thursday at our normal time. I can't meet Friday, I
> have another engagement.
>
> I went out to the web page. Any way we can each get a name/password set
up?
> You know, I own anterastorage.com would you like to set it up on your
server
> Jay?
>
> Jay, I also have all of the docs on my computer. Is there a way I can
check
> them into your cvs repository?
>
> Is Dan on this mailing list? Does he know about tomorrows meeting? Are we
> meeting tomorrow? Does Kevin know?
>
> Perry
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jay Miller" <jnmiller, cryptofreak dot org>
> To: <antera, cryptofreak dot org>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2001 2:46 PM
> Subject: Meeting thoughts and some other stuff.
>
>
> > Hi.  I thought I would brief you all on the results of the short meeting
> > Don and I had this morning, and fill you in on some other minor stuff I
> > did.
> >
> > We worked through a couple other use cases.  Here's some text about
> > them, though Don has them more officially documented.
> >
> > * Virus checking
> > We only considered virus checking at the time of backup, rather than
> > file creation/write time.  For performance reasons, this is all that
> > makes sense, and I don't *think* anyone had expected otherwise. (?)
> >
> > Checking for viruses therefore because a step in the backup use case we
> > all did yesterday.  However, we thought it made sense to postponed virus
> > checking in particular and just consider a generic 'Backup Preparation'
> > interface.  It would be a way for miscellaneous modules to plug in to
> > our ADCs and preform whatever sort of action is needed.  Examples might
> > include compression, encryption and, of course, virus checking.
> >
> > In any of these cases, the module is extremely small: just a command
> > line interface to analyze the snapped file in the appropriate way.
> >
> > Neat, we thought.
> >
> > * Auto-restore
> > This idea may not be so popular, but after thinking about it for a bit,
> > Don and I thought it might actually be kinda slick as well as being the
> > only right way to do it.
> >
> > Auto-restores begin with an open() request for a migrated file.  That
> > open will block while the ADML manages to restore the data.  On disk at
> > that time, we believed, is a 0-length file representing the real file.
> > Fine.  All good.
> >
> > The ADML sends a request out for the specified file, and that file is
> > read from tape (or whatever).  We can't just restore the file directly
> > to the file system from the top, however, because we won't be able to
> > differentiate that open from any other open (or a write, or whatever).
> > We therefore thought that our software will be required to send the
> > raw data straight to the ADML level and have it make the write() calls
> > to the file system.  When the data is restored in this manner, the PD is
> > updated and the original open() is unblocked.
> >
> > Kinda neat, though it might sound hairy at first.
> >
> > * Archive/migrate a file
> > This one turned out a bit complicated.  No description from me!
> >
> > ...
> >
> > In other news, this email was sent, as you can see, to
> > 'antera, cryptofreak dot org'.  This is a mailing list so I don't have to
> > manage all those damn email addresses in the To: line.
> >
> > Another benefit of such a thing is privacy: anyone seeing this email
> > will see only what you can see, namely sender and the list name.  While
> > it's not really a big deal, it could provide a little protection
> > sometime. (And no, you can't expand the list at my SMTP server.)
> >
> > One other benefit is the ability to have a central archive (ha!) of all
> > of this crap we're sending.  Which leads me to..
> >
> > I also setup a little website that might be a nice place to deposit
> > code and documents.  The list archive is also found here.
> >
> > http://www.cryptofreak.org/projects/antera/
> >
> > It's all protected by the following access info:
> >
> > user: antera
> > pass: asc-GUEST
> >
> > Check it out, if you like.  There's also instructions on using the list
> > and, if you like, adding names to the list.  For now, if you want to
> > email the list, just send to antera, cryptofreak dot org.
> >
> > --
> > Jay Miller
> >
> > ICQ: 32123421 | YM: ladenedge | http://www.cryptofreak.org
> > PGP: 0xedc9bb8d | 41a6428c 46abd36b 6b259b68 8a28ca4c edc9bb8c
> > --
> > This is the antera mailing list.  To unsubscribe, email
> > majordomo, cryptofreak dot org with message body `unsubscribe antera'.
> > Or, for more information, visit http://www.cryptofreak.org/.
> >
>
> --
> This is the antera mailing list.  To unsubscribe, email
> majordomo, cryptofreak dot org with message body `unsubscribe antera'.
> Or, for more information, visit http://www.cryptofreak.org/.
>
> --
> This is the antera mailing list.  To unsubscribe, email
> majordomo, cryptofreak dot org with message body `unsubscribe antera'.
> Or, for more information, visit http://www.cryptofreak.org/.
>

--
This is the antera mailing list.  To unsubscribe, email
majordomo, cryptofreak dot org with message body `unsubscribe antera'.
Or, for more information, visit http://www.cryptofreak.org/.



This archive was generated by hypermail 2b30 : 2001.09.27 - 03.00 MDT