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From: Dan Oister (dan.oister, home dot com) Date: 2001.10.16 - 10.24 MDT
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400
Team,
I'm still a road warrior, but continue to get validation at every presentation I go to.
I had some interesting feedback from a gentleman who runs a large reseller in England that I'd like to share. He had seen an early version of a presentation that left him questioning exactly what we're doing, but his comments on a backup appliance are worth reading.
I also met with a VC consultant yesterday and got some good feedback and direction from him.
...hope all's well with everyone. Don't hesitate to call or write!!
Dan O
303-456-0103 (ofc. forwards to cell phone)
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Richard Pain [mailto:richard.pain, solutioncentre dot co.uk]
> Sent: 03 October 2001 09:45
> To: 'bgriffiths, nas dot uk.com'
> Subject: RE: Returned mail: see transcript for details
>
> Barry
>
> It is hard to work out exactly what they are offering. There are lots of
> words in there but it is all a bit nebulous. A few random things that
> spring to mind:
>
> HSM has been around for a long time but has had comparatively little
uptake
> as people don't really like it. I think they worry about the wrong tape
> being available and having to worry about having a tape library just for
> HSM. How about offering the option of a secondary disk store that is
> usually spun down so you get the benefits of not having to back it up and
no
> power draw, but subject to the disks spinning up will be instantly
> available.
>
> How does the concept of spooling directly to tape work with versioning.
It
> may be that someone save and re-edits a file many times, in which case you
> end up with a tape full of different versions. There needs to be a tape
> consolidation method.
>
> In the corporate environment directory services are becoming increasingly
> relevant, with both NDS and now Active Directory. Most storage centric
> manufacturers neglect the requirement for any devices to fit in with the
> directory structure.
>
> WORM in the legal environment utilises a disk technology that cannot be
> rewritten no matter what you do to it. That is why it stands up in court.
> This is clearly changeable with a switch so the legal bit is of no use.
> However it could be useful in non legal environments.
>
> They mention multiple 200Mb/s streams. Clearly as with Tricord this
> bandwidth capability is crucial.
>
> One thing that doesn't seem to exist in the market is a packaged backup
> solution. NAS appliances assume that all the data is going to reside on
the
> appliance. This cannot always be the case, or may not always be
desirable.
> For example, there are always arguments about the merits of putting
> databases or installable file systems, such as Exchange, on NAS. With
> products like Bakbones Netvault there are newish backup software products
> that cover a wide range of platforms and offer a wide range of library
> support with optional disk staging. The problem is that you cannot disk
> stage to a network drive, so you end up having to put in a dedicatedish
> backup server. How about a packaged device that has all the connectivity
> they are talking about, including the library support, but with a decent
> backup application running on the box so you have local disk staging,
> directly attached tape library and if they can do snap shotting of the
> target data to backup it could be really interesting.
>
> I'm sure there are lots of things I have missed, but I don't fully
> understand from what I have read exactly what they are doing.
>
> Best regards
> Richard
>
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>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Barry Griffiths [mailto:bgriffiths, tricord dot com]
> Sent: 02 October 2001 18:00
> To: Pain, Richard
> Subject: FW: Returned mail: see transcript for details
>
>
>
>
> Barry Griffiths
> European Sales Manager
> Tricord Systems UK Ltd
> Tel: +44 1235 511345
> Mobile: +44 7768 465644
> bgriffiths, tricord dot com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mail Delivery Subsystem
> [mailto:MAILER-DAEMON@nimbus9.internetters.co.uk]
> Sent: 02 October 2001 12:15
> To: bgriffiths, nas dot uk.com
> Subject: Returned mail: see transcript for details
>
> The original message was received at Tue, 2 Oct 2001 07:14:45 -0400 (EDT)
> from anchor-post-34.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.92]
>
> ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----
> <richard.pain, solutioncentre dot co.uk>
> (reason: 550 5.1.1
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>
> ----- Transcript of session follows -----
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